Your email address will not be published. When Hansen drove up to Paulson and propositioned her, she agreed to get into his car. A turning point came in 1983, when a teenage prostitute named Cindy Paulson ran into a Fifth Avenue motel in handcuffs, saying that Hansen had imprisoned her at his home, raped her and put her on his plane for a one-way ride. Too often, Robert Hansen was believed instead of the women, many of them dancers or prostitutes, who testified against him. (Sound of pages turning. Have you heard anything about a sequel to Journey 2 The Mysterious Island? 10 Underrated Thrillers That Are Destined To Become Cult Classics, 10 Best Movies Trilogies Ranked From 'Spider-Man' to 'The Lord of the Rings', This Spielberg Movie Only Made a $1 Box Office Profit. Then they would meet. CINDY PAWLCYN Award-winning chef, cookbook author and founder of a dozen restaurants, Cindy Pawlcyn reveals a few of her secrets to starting a successful bus. Hudgens: Oh my gosh, Nic is the most professional actor Ive ever worked with and that I probably will ever work with. FLOTHE: And contact Cindy at this phone number and this room number Can you tell us how that all came about? And I was supposed to meet him but I didnt show up cause I overslept. FLOTHE: Would you draw me a diagram of the house and Ill turn the tape off just for a minute while youre doing that. FLOTHE: You saw a bunch of money in his wallet? Robert Christian Hansen (the Butcher Baker) and the Delphi Murde He had been placed in medical segregation in Anchorage, which is akin to being in the hospital, Daigle said at the time. And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. (Cindy Paulson), Cindy Paulson CINDY: Yeah. Robert chased after his intended victim, but it was no use. Though Cindy was able to describe her attacker and his home in great detail, it didnt make any difference. Kyle Hopkins is special projects editor of the Anchorage Daily News. Or was it some other color? FLOTHE: Um hmm. (rustling sound as Flothe shows his gun to Cindy) Did it have that or was And it had a long barrel (turning of pages) like Figure 4 or (pause) Figure 2. Cindy Paulson Interview with Sgt. When his truck became stuck in the mud, the woman tried to run. or debate this issue live on our message boards. You know, like mine is. CINDY: Yes, its real Hell yeah, Im bothered by it. Why not be the first to send us your thoughts, The Butcher Baker passed away of natural causes in August of 2014, he lived to be 75 years old. Eventually his buddys conscience got the better of him, and he confessed his crimes to the police; for his role, Robert was sentenced to three years incarceration. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. Eventually Robert did admit to having raped dozens, but would only confess to the murder of 17; he even lead police to the shallow graves of twelve more corpses. All Rights Reserved., https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/, Killers found not guilty by reason of insanity. (pause) CINDY: No. CINDY: The Buick car, inside the garage. When police were able to interview her, she explained her grizzly tale in detail. Profiling is really an incredible science, its amazing how even the littlest details about a killer can be told by their crimes. In the 1960s he moved to Anchorage and opened a bakery of his own in a strip mall at Ninth Avenue and Ingra Street. And Ill give you one guess as to who fit the bill perfectly! You can listen to the podcast of this interview here. *Though its not super graphic or bloody, this article does contain a couple of images of the killer posing with hunted game animals. Hansen was the subject of a 2013 film titled, 'The Frozen Ground,' which starred Nicolas Cage as an Alaskan State Trooper investigating the slayings, with actor John Cusack portraying Hansen. When she made the move to California in 2001, she became more open, sharing that she was happily married to a woman who also happened to be a great cook and winemaker. CINDY: Uh huh. CINDY: The same person. Cindy had been with BC for 14 years (more than 30 years to date), managing a region and leading many projects when she felt something was missing. Okay. At an APD station, She explains to detectives that she was abducted and repeatedly raped. I said, fine, we can do it in the car. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. FLOTHE: And then he contacted you on Saturday. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Uh huh. CINDY: He has kind of darkish, brownish hair. CINDY: Cause they told me, the police officers had told me when we went to the hospital. CINDY: Nope. He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. Join Facebook to connect with Cindy Paulson and others you may know. They look at them in a very specific way. (pause) CINDY: He wrote it down on a (inaudible). document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. "In his mind there were good girls and bad girls.". Since his release from the Iowan prison, Robert had been arrested more than once for crimes such as shoplifting, but somewhere around 71 and 72 he was arrested for having sexually assaulted both a sex worker and a housewife by the names of Patricia Roberts and Susan Heppeard. FLOTHE: Did he tell you what his name was? But he had brown socks on. And it may not even be in there. So the next day, which was Sunday (sniffles), I was on Fourth and Denali and this gentleman had been by and pulled in the parking lot and offered me, and I got in the car voluntarily, I was talking with this man and he offered me $200 for a blowjob in the car. This looks black but its actually blue. And hes about five six, weighs about 170 pounds. And he suggested that we could go to his place. And then up here on my hand, right in the middle. Hudgens: Were shooting for either late December or the beginning of next year. Uh, the first time I seen CINDY PAULSON was about a block west of, I think its a 76 station on the corner there of Gambell and 5th. FLOTHE: I have its kind of a picture book with different types of guns in it, OK. Would you take a look through that picture book and see if you see a gun that might be similar to the one that this man had? Now, from reading your report apparently you had a pretty good description of the house that you gave the police. Hansen would kidnap the women at gunpoint, tie them up, then fly to remote areas to kill them. He remains active in the markets. Hudgens: I dont like talking about anything until I sign my contract, which I havent done yet, but it will happen most likely pretty soon. The Big Timber, Mush Inn, I dont, sorry, I cant remember which one. Do you remember what hes driving on Friday? 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When his wife, Darla Marie Henrichsen Hensen, and their children were home (they visited family in Arkansas quite often) its believed that Robert would simply skip taking his victim home altogether. Were the lights on or off? Your email address will not be published. He often found his victims among topless dancers and prostitutes in downtown Anchorage. It left me wanting to watch it over and over again even though Im in it. Laurel Andrews was a reporter for the Anchorage Daily News, Alaska Dispatch News and Alaska Dispatch. You know, I was supposed to meet him. Were able to have honest and trusting conversations about how to make BC, and hopefully the industry, a place We must take small steps to make a positive change in the workplace and industry and, right now, its We work to create a more inclusive space because everyone deserves to live and embrace their truths. CINDY: OK, well I had got in the car to give the guy a blowjob. On his terms. FLOTHE: How did you know that? I play Cereza which means Cherry in Spanish which says a lot about the character. The one person who really seemed to have believed Cindy and became determined to stop this killer was a state trooper by the name of Glenn Flothe. CINDY: Uh huh. CINDY: On Fourth and Denali. But aside from that, he just let me play and take it wherever I wanted. As you know, the only electronic I open is a crappy android. The serial killer wasnt even on the suspect list anymore, hed been completely cleared. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Yes, Cindy Paulson is a real person, and as shown in the movie, she was one of the many women who were abducted by Robert Hansen. He takes Paulson to a hospital and her clothes are kept for a rape Kit. This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. FLOTHE: Were the handcuffs tight? So he felt he should go and get the girl and take her over to his house. FLOTHE: Turning the tape off at 8:34 pm. FLOTHE: What did he ask you? If it was something technical, of course, it would take a couple more takes, but for the most part, hes the kind of director that filled me in, let me know the mood that he wanted to convey and where he wanted it to land. Opening August 23rd, the film also features Dean Norris, Radha Mitchell and Curtis 50 Cent Jackson. CINDY: Um hmm. [Installment Three]. I just wanted to make her as full-hearted as I possibly could. Robert Hansen confessed to killing 17 women in the 1970s and early 80s and after the murder 30 years ago, led authorities to her body near a lake in the north of Anchorage. She left the ADN in October 2018. FLOTHE: OK. And hes driving the same car. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. I wanted everyone to see that were all the same. Cindy reveals that Hansen flashed some bills at her and that she was entranced by the thought of his money. I actually shot that before I filmed this (The Frozen Ground) interestingly enough. We must find our commonalities through sharing our experiences, spreading awareness, and caring for one another. Did he give you a sense of what he wanted and then get out of the way and let you follow your instincts as an actor? Lets touch on this serials background for a minute, because thats important when looking at a killer. Its by far the craziest transformation Ive had yet. CINDY: Hey, for a blowjob in the car, hell yeah. FLOTHE: In your face? "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. Every time it was in my face. Does he tell you anything at that point, once hes got the handcuffs on Hudgens: I thought it was pretty spot on. And who showed you those pictures? By the time hed caught up, Cindy had flagged down a passing motorist; this good samaritan drove the teen to a nearby hotel room, and he promptly notified the Alaskan police. FLOTHE: How did you know this? Top nutrition scientist says you should drink as many varieties as possible UK's electric car revolution stalls: Britain falling behind US and Europe in race to become an EV Charles evicting Harry and Meghan is the act of a King putting his country first: REBECCA ENGLISH reveals A royal princess at Eton? Hansen later told investigators that his first kill involved a woman he assumed to be a topless dancer or prostitute. How does it compare to what you envisioned when you first read the script? ROBERT HANSEN (RH): Uh, you want me, Sir, to start when I first met this CINDY PAULSON the first time or, RH: or what? Several months later, police with search warrants went through Hansen's home, finding enough evidence to eventually charge him with four murders. CINDY: I believe it was right there right across from the Sheraton on Fifth and Denali. FLOTHE: When did he tell you this? Way down on the floor. On the floor instead there was an airplane seat. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. For the life of me, i cant see any reason why the state of Alaska, or anyone would keep robert Hansen alive after his conviction Why would you keep a monster like this alive and have the peoples tax money feed such an animal for years.. Cant wrap my head around it.. Alaska does not have the death penalty and has never had it (since Statehood). Psychology tells us that we all process things differently things that you may be able to shrug off, incidents which may make you stronger and more determined could emotionally break someone else quite literally. The stuffed heads of the animals which hed killed lined his walls, and damming items such as unique jewelry pieces which could easily be linked back to many of the missing women were found within the home as well. There. Black or brown? Couple find note in chimney that reveals their 290,000 house was 100 times cheaper 50 years ago. Vanessa Hudgens: I was a little bit shaken up that this guy who was well respected in the neighborhood and everyone knew as the family man could have done such atrocious and heinous crimes. Big ol like caribou and goats heads, big ones stuffed everywhere. He confessed to sometimes releasing the women in the woods in order to stalk and hunt them before the murders. In a police interview after Paulson's escape, she told him she got the feeling other people may live in the house. 'We're not trying to solve the crime. Why dont we start then with what will be freshest in mind, which is the the cases that are pending now and from what happened in June of last year. I need a cheap laptop, microphones, etc. CINDY: Theres no trees in the front yard. Apparently youre bothered by this? One night she picked up a small, skinny client with a pock-marked face who wore glasses and spoke with a stutter. There was a bullet hole in the floor. He invited me afterwards to go to dinner with him and a couple of his friends because he felt so bad about putting me through that. Hansen confessed to authorities that he had killed 17. CINDY: Im positive. And he had a green shirt or else it was plaid. It was funny though, cause before, when he was getting ready to take me to his cabin, he said that, um, there had been seven other girls before me. As an act of retribution against the people who he felt had tortured him, Robert talked a young bakery employee into helping him blow up a local school bus barn. So it was nice to kind of test my own mental and physical strength. CINDY: Yeah. Just him by himself. Its likely that it was around this time that the rapist decided that hed no longer leave behind any victims who could turn him in to the police, and that he would dispose of these women in the best way he knew how. And so, I was guided along very beautifully by them. CINDY: The automatic opener. Though he was doing so well in his new life, Roberts dark urges grew stronger by the day; he could and very often did hunt all of the Alaskan game that he liked, but each kill steadily grew less satisfying than the last. CINDY: Same. And that he had to work and he couldnt do it then. We are all the same. CINDY: They were a dark brown. Survivor Cindy, who is a married mother of three today. FLOTHE: OK. My dream is to purchasing what I need to get that YouTube/patreon off the ground. Your email address will not be published. CINDY: Yep. FLOTHE: So, youre in the car and he pulls a gun out and he handcuffs you. The cause of death will be determined by the medical examiner but it appears he died of natural causes, she said. FLOTHE: Did he give you change? I was just I was hysterical and shocked, didnt know what to do, he was chasing after me with a gun. Flothe (Sep 27, 1983) Cindy Paulson talks about Robert Hansen CINDY: (Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. CINDY: The garage was opened. CINDY: Um I think it was around six. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. It was smooth like Figure 20s handle, but the gun was shaped like Figure 21. So in 1939 Robert was born in Estherville, Iowa to an immigrant father. I wish we could say for sure that this was Roberts final victim, but its thought that there were probably more. And he contacts you. CINDY: Um hmm. He seemed really like a pretty good guy. FLOTHE: Describe this man to me. Glenn Flothe. "Good riddance to him.". He was really sweet. Can you describe that again to me, Cindy? FRANK ROTHSCHILD (FR): Alright. CINDY: You know, I didnt feel nothing, cause I knew I wasnt gonna live. FLOTHE: I wanna show you six pictures, Cindy, and the person that were talking about may or may not be in here. He found an outlet for his feelings of sexual rejection and frustration through criminalityfirst via smaller displays of power like kleptomania, then graduating to arson, burning down a school bus garage in his hometown of Pocahontas, Iowa in 1960, a crime for which he served 20 months in prison. Roberts father, an overbearing man who never did care to have a decent relationship with his son, expected young Robert to be busy at work in the familys bakery whenever he wasnt in school. Hudgens: It was so helpful. That opens the door to me being accessible and fully embraced and thats powerful. I was surprised that I could do it and then go home and be able to feel removed from it. Ever since I was young, I wanted to be in a role where I could play a prostitute or a drug addict, because its nice to be able to portray someone who is so far from you, which I love. CINDY: Well, I didnt. Hansens Den (Alaska State Troopers) CINDY: Um hmm. Glenn Flothe, AST. FLOTHE: Were you shown any pictures of him before? Is this part of a deliberate strategy to develop further as an actress and put the High School 3 image behind? FLOTHE: Ah. CINDY: Uh huh. * I would like to talk about Roberts wife, Darla, and their two children for a minute. Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group. Over the last 30 years, Cindy has facilitated more than 100 successful workshops/work sessions, including a dozen all-day . Did you know the street name? Daily News reporter Sean Doogan contributed to this story. And he had called me and I slept through it. There are so many different genres out there to do, so many different characters to play, so many different amazing actors and directors to work with. CINDY: Uh huh. 2022 Anchorage Daily News. She also discussed her fun cameo in Machete Kills and her upcoming films, Gimme Shelter and The Kitchen Sink. Hansen didn't see his victims as human, the attorney said. Alaska's Missing Planes and People. And he had called me and I slept through it. Sadly in a roundabout way Robert brought upon his own two children the same thing which had traumatized him, his kids were bullied mercilessly for their fathers evil acts. We deserve to identify ourselves and our many pieces, both personally and professionally. Hes amazing. FLOTHE: And then you overslept and consequently didnt meet him. Only a dozen bodies were located. Robert thoroughly enjoyed hunting humans; these ladies were savagely murdered with his favorite weapons: a Ruger Mini-14 and a hunting knife. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. Darla had known that shed married a dedicated hunter, so when Robert had taken time away from the family, it was easy to explain away. I was kinda trippin I really thought (inaudible) I just want to do everything. John A. Paulson founded Paulson & Co., an investment management firm based in New York. He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. FLOTHE: You think if I showed you some pictures of some cars later on you might be able to pick it out? It was very, very eerie and really tough, but John (Cusack) was great. FLOTHE: OK. FLOTHE: At what time did he call you on Saturday? CINDY: I dont think so. Darla had truly believed that if she stuck it out, she could eventually talk Robert into going to church with her more often she thought that she could save the soul of the man shed vowed before God to love, and her marriage would be fixed as well. Donations & Patreon membership will go towards keeping this site running. This actually wasnt an uncommon thing for parents to do during this time period, plenty of us lefties in past generations were forced to conform, but apparently this deeply scarred this young man. Hansen asked to speak with his attorneys and went out into another room. It had a long barrel. It turned into a cat and mouse chase. She was a prostitute who was kidnapped and raped before managing to escape, but when she went to the police, Hansen evaded arrest because the lead investigator didn't . She gave me an extremely solid foundation and told me her earliest memories that she had until where she is to this day. Hansen died around 1:30 a.m. at Alaska Regional Hospital, said Sherrie Daigle, deputy director of administrative services for the Department of Corrections. I said I could meet him at ten or else at eleven. First, we hear about that meet up from Robert Hansens confession. I think before you mentioned something being on the roof of the house. There was also a collection of newspaper articles about the killer and his missing victims, and a map with little X marks all over it which indicated where hed dumped his victims. Today, my ideas as an individual come from confidence founded on who I really am, versus the persona. FLOTHE: At this time, so I know what youre talking about, cause I have not been in the house, Cindy CINDY: He said that he would like to have some company. Its another fun, more light-hearted character that the audiences have never seen me do before. A mousy, seemingly easy-natured family man, Hansen admitted to killing 17 woman and raping another 30 over a dozen years in the 1970s and 1980s. That was everywhere in the whole In the basement there was fish, there was wolf skin, there was stuffed animals everywhere. CINDY: It was probably about a 72, cream-colored Datsun, with a kinda station wagon in the back, the kind that you used to It was about a 72 or 73. The security guard had came up I dont know if I was in the back laying down when he [the security guard] did. Wife is shocked after husband of 15 years asks for permission to have an affair: 'I don't know what to do'. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Glenn Flothe, AST. He liked to take these women home with him, and once a victim had entered this killers lair she was pretty much doomed; he would take her down to the basement, often to a secret soundproof room where he already had chains rigged up. CINDY (cont. He was afraid of running into friends, relatives or acquaintances of people who knew his many victims. See if theres anyone in here that you might recognize. Hansen likely would have continued to kill and escape justice if one of his intended victims hadn't escaped. What did you learn about yourself in the process of making this film? And then we hear about the same meet up from Cindy Paulsons perspective, documented in her trooper interview with Sgt. Interview with Cindy Morgan DontHateTheGeek 2.2K views 10 years ago Whiplash Final Scene - Andrew Neyman's Performance Awais Irfan 14M views 7 years ago Ned Lightner 52K views 9 years ago The. Hansen said she had a knife in her purse. For only $3 you can help this site stay up and running! * I strive to be as concise as possible when it comes to facts as theres no telling what an article may be used for. And he was very kind and giving as an actor, as well as John. FLOTHE: Did he seem pretty sincere about wanting to get with you? CINDY: Up to the house. Vanessa Hudgens Talks THE FROZEN GROUND, Meeting the Real Cindy Paulson, MACHETE KILLS, GIMME SHELTER, and THE KITCHEN SINK. Construction of the trans-Alaska oil pipeline ignited nightlife in the city blocks surrounding his bakery. She is known for her incredible homemade bars that she shares with riders while they enjoy the scenic views of nature along the trail. (Source: Anchorage Police Department) Cindy Paulson was a 17-year-old dancer and sex worker living in Anchorage with her mother. I think it will be a fun change of pace for me. Hansens Truck & Datsun Close-up (copyright Leland E. Hale). CINDY: No. Investigators believe that before killing his victims, Robert would often take them to his cabin in the wilderness in his private jet. No matter what her husband did, even after hed been arrested and jailed for rape, she remained by her husbands side. FLOTHE: Did he approach you or did you approach him? I personally loved it. Required fields are marked *. To the left is the basement. CINDY: A police officer at the Sixth Avenue police department. I always wanted to do dramas. So its early in the morning FLOTHE: There is a kind of lightish scar there on your FLOTHE: What kind of boots? And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. "He will not be missed," said Frank Rothschild, the assistant district attorney who tried the case. CINDY: Yep. CINDY: It wasnt painted. FLOTHE: Did you give him the room number too? Can you tell me a little about your character and the status of that project? Dr. Cindy Paulson, senior vice president and Brown and Caldwell's Chief Technical Officer, is responsible for advancing the company's technical strategy from innovation to talent development and quality delivery. FLOTHE: Like this? CINDY: Regular Just working boots. The security guard at that time What are your thoughts on the reception to Spring Breakers? In June 1983, one of his victims, Cindy Paulson, managed to escape his car as he loaded his plane to take her to his cabin. FLOTHE: Would you recognize this metal seat if you saw it again, do you think? (inaudible) Like many killers he targeted transient women, they were often exotic dancers and sex workers; after hed charmed the woman of his choice and done his best to convince her of his harmlessness, Robert would talk her into leaving with him. FLOTHE: Two hundred dollars is a lot of money Hansen worked in a supply room at the Lemon Creek prison in Juneau, where in 1990 authorities found an aeronautical chart, a hand-knit winter hat, magazine articles on plastic explosives and correspondence with a Juneau boat broker. Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. 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